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		<title>By: The SCRM-E2.0 Convergence: Train Wreck or Chunnel? &#124; crm intelligence &#38; strategy</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/12/how-enterprise-applications-will-change-in-2010/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>The SCRM-E2.0 Convergence: Train Wreck or Chunnel? &#124; crm intelligence &#38; strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] introduction to the topic summarized what I see as the main issue: SCRM and Enterprise 2.0 are heading in the same direction (customer-centricity), talking about the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: My Foray into Enteprise 2.0 &#124; crm intelligence &#38; strategy</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Foray into Enteprise 2.0 &#124; crm intelligence &#38; strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you remember, this is one of my key topics for 2010.  No, we will not witness convergence between Social CRM and Enterprise 2.0 in 2010.  However, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/12/how-enterprise-applications-will-change-in-2010/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 11:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not forget about you... just been thinking about the best way to reply.

Yes, your comment did strike something deep.

1) customers are shifting, becoming social customers.  Paul Greenberg wrote about it in several places, as have so many others including myself, and talked about it for some time.  My contention, which I wrote about before in this blog, is that single customers are now becoming more and more part of communities, and that the business functions will morph into community-oriented business functions.  Thus, what you call customers today will be very different in a very few short years (I see 2010 as the platform, the launchpad if you may).  Marketing, Sales, and Services will become functions that depend on communities - not individuals - to operate.  Ironically, a sentence that got cut out in editing what one that explained that statement further -- it said &quot;think community relationship management, not customer relationship management&quot;

does that explain that part.

2)I don&#039;t expect companies to be fully converged in 2010, but to initiate the road towards it (as you can probably imagine it will take more than 12 months to accomplish).  It is true that convergence, in coordination with the concept of the social customer model, will signify success in the future.  Not sure of the timing, but it is an imperative.  If you adopt the idea that customers are shifting, then convergence is your goal.  Siebel talked about this before, when they did their ERM (employee relationship management), as did PeopleSoft and myself in research I wrote in 2000-2002 for Gartner.  This is not new, and certainly won&#039;t go away, but it gains strength and importance as we shift the model for the customer.

As usual, I will be the first one to concede to errors in predictions I made in the past.  You will very likely get a report card.  BTW, the reason I did not do one for 2008 at the end of 2009 is that my only prediction for 2009 was that it was going to be the year of social.  Felt stupid doing a report card on that since there was not enough definition in my previous post to warrant a follow up.

Alas, you will be glad to know that back in 1993 I declared the internet a non-issue, a fad that would dissappear in not even 2 years.  In my defense, I was not an analyst but a sys-admin at the time. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not forget about you&#8230; just been thinking about the best way to reply.</p>
<p>Yes, your comment did strike something deep.</p>
<p>1) customers are shifting, becoming social customers.  Paul Greenberg wrote about it in several places, as have so many others including myself, and talked about it for some time.  My contention, which I wrote about before in this blog, is that single customers are now becoming more and more part of communities, and that the business functions will morph into community-oriented business functions.  Thus, what you call customers today will be very different in a very few short years (I see 2010 as the platform, the launchpad if you may).  Marketing, Sales, and Services will become functions that depend on communities &#8211; not individuals &#8211; to operate.  Ironically, a sentence that got cut out in editing what one that explained that statement further &#8212; it said &#8220;think community relationship management, not customer relationship management&#8221;</p>
<p>does that explain that part.</p>
<p>2)I don&#8217;t expect companies to be fully converged in 2010, but to initiate the road towards it (as you can probably imagine it will take more than 12 months to accomplish).  It is true that convergence, in coordination with the concept of the social customer model, will signify success in the future.  Not sure of the timing, but it is an imperative.  If you adopt the idea that customers are shifting, then convergence is your goal.  Siebel talked about this before, when they did their ERM (employee relationship management), as did PeopleSoft and myself in research I wrote in 2000-2002 for Gartner.  This is not new, and certainly won&#8217;t go away, but it gains strength and importance as we shift the model for the customer.</p>
<p>As usual, I will be the first one to concede to errors in predictions I made in the past.  You will very likely get a report card.  BTW, the reason I did not do one for 2008 at the end of 2009 is that my only prediction for 2009 was that it was going to be the year of social.  Felt stupid doing a report card on that since there was not enough definition in my previous post to warrant a follow up.</p>
<p>Alas, you will be glad to know that back in 1993 I declared the internet a non-issue, a fad that would dissappear in not even 2 years.  In my defense, I was not an analyst but a sys-admin at the time. <img src='http://estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: futurechat &#8212; Blog &#8212; 2010 - Predictions, Trends and Expectations</title>
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		<dc:creator>futurechat &#8212; Blog &#8212; 2010 - Predictions, Trends and Expectations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Seth Grimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth Grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are *&quot;customers&quot; (yes, in quotation marks)*?

What do you mean when you write, &quot;We are not talking about customers any more (at least not as before)&quot;?  Seems to me that &quot;customers,&quot; in the traditional (as-before) sense of people and organizations who buy products and services, is exactly what &quot;we&quot; are still talking about.  Please explain.

Converging Enterprise 2.0 and Social CRM is &quot;sine qua non&quot; for an organization to succeed and become a Social Business?  What is a &quot;Social Business,&quot; and you&#039;re saying organizations will not succeed if they don&#039;t do this in the next 6-12 months?  Could we get a report card on this prediction a year from now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are *&#8221;customers&#8221; (yes, in quotation marks)*?</p>
<p>What do you mean when you write, &#8220;We are not talking about customers any more (at least not as before)&#8221;?  Seems to me that &#8220;customers,&#8221; in the traditional (as-before) sense of people and organizations who buy products and services, is exactly what &#8220;we&#8221; are still talking about.  Please explain.</p>
<p>Converging Enterprise 2.0 and Social CRM is &#8220;sine qua non&#8221; for an organization to succeed and become a Social Business?  What is a &#8220;Social Business,&#8221; and you&#8217;re saying organizations will not succeed if they don&#8217;t do this in the next 6-12 months?  Could we get a report card on this prediction a year from now?</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by ekolsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by ekolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/12/how-enterprise-applications-will-change-in-2010/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wim,

Thanks for commenting.  Lots of good stuff in what you say...

Here is the deal, while I believe most companies are in the stage you mention - the vision must be sufficiently generous to allow them to strive for it.  If I would have said, understand that your current systems don&#039;t work then nothing would ever happen.  I believe, from experience, that you have to put the carrot 5-10 years ahead of where they are and help them move towards it.  The work i will do in research in the next 2-3 months is going to be in &quot;painting&quot; that picture, in engineering that carrot so they can see that it makes sense.

Will they all get there at the same time? not a chance, but if I can find a handful that agree with what I am saying and want to move in that direction then I&#039;d be satisfied as to what I did.  It worked before for the Customer Interaction Hub and for EFM when I did it, and in spite of being a small number of people - the main concepts did seep into other implementations that even they were not called CIH or EFM, they embraced the main idea.  And, to me, embracing of the model is what I call success from my perspective.

The Cloud? until we agree in what a cloud is (probably 2-3 years out), and how it can be used and benefit us (even longer), talking about it is all we can do -- and it will become the largest experiment in powerpoint-ware we ever created until then.  I don&#039;t expect to see more than talk for 2010 and probably 2011 on this -- unless there is a vendor (other than SFDC) that gets it and wants to get into really (there is a rumor of Amazon spinning AWS off which would probably make a significant impact to advance the concept).  Alas, I am not holding my breath on that one -- but want to see if we can advance the conversation on what it is and how to use it... that would be success to me.

As for 2009 -- thanks for being a big supporter of my work and what I did.  I really appreciate it and am looking forward to more sharp commentary that helps me elevate my game.

Esteban</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wim,</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting.  Lots of good stuff in what you say&#8230;</p>
<p>Here is the deal, while I believe most companies are in the stage you mention &#8211; the vision must be sufficiently generous to allow them to strive for it.  If I would have said, understand that your current systems don&#8217;t work then nothing would ever happen.  I believe, from experience, that you have to put the carrot 5-10 years ahead of where they are and help them move towards it.  The work i will do in research in the next 2-3 months is going to be in &#8220;painting&#8221; that picture, in engineering that carrot so they can see that it makes sense.</p>
<p>Will they all get there at the same time? not a chance, but if I can find a handful that agree with what I am saying and want to move in that direction then I&#8217;d be satisfied as to what I did.  It worked before for the Customer Interaction Hub and for EFM when I did it, and in spite of being a small number of people &#8211; the main concepts did seep into other implementations that even they were not called CIH or EFM, they embraced the main idea.  And, to me, embracing of the model is what I call success from my perspective.</p>
<p>The Cloud? until we agree in what a cloud is (probably 2-3 years out), and how it can be used and benefit us (even longer), talking about it is all we can do &#8212; and it will become the largest experiment in powerpoint-ware we ever created until then.  I don&#8217;t expect to see more than talk for 2010 and probably 2011 on this &#8212; unless there is a vendor (other than SFDC) that gets it and wants to get into really (there is a rumor of Amazon spinning AWS off which would probably make a significant impact to advance the concept).  Alas, I am not holding my breath on that one &#8212; but want to see if we can advance the conversation on what it is and how to use it&#8230; that would be success to me.</p>
<p>As for 2009 &#8212; thanks for being a big supporter of my work and what I did.  I really appreciate it and am looking forward to more sharp commentary that helps me elevate my game.</p>
<p>Esteban</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 10:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wim Rampen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wim Rampen</dc:creator>
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		<description>Good post Esteban,

I agree but for the fact that I think Convergence, as you name it, is probably the biggest challenge, specifically in those companies that are still all about value exchange, inside-out process management and efficiency over effectiveness oriented.. And let&#039;s face it: most still are..

Without a clear understanding of this any technology set-up will fail to provide the ROI (even in a broader than financial perspective) because it will fail to be adopted.

Clouds are very important to get out the maximum, but I would suggest to focus efforts first on tackling your first 4 items on the list.

Looking forward to the next decade of discussions &amp; good reads from your hand! Thx for a great 2009.

Wim
.-= Wim Rampen´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://contactcenterintelligence.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/counting-down/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Counting down…&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Esteban,</p>
<p>I agree but for the fact that I think Convergence, as you name it, is probably the biggest challenge, specifically in those companies that are still all about value exchange, inside-out process management and efficiency over effectiveness oriented.. And let&#8217;s face it: most still are..</p>
<p>Without a clear understanding of this any technology set-up will fail to provide the ROI (even in a broader than financial perspective) because it will fail to be adopted.</p>
<p>Clouds are very important to get out the maximum, but I would suggest to focus efforts first on tackling your first 4 items on the list.</p>
<p>Looking forward to the next decade of discussions &amp; good reads from your hand! Thx for a great 2009.</p>
<p>Wim<br />
.-= Wim Rampen´s last blog ..<a href="http://contactcenterintelligence.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/counting-down/" rel="nofollow">Counting down…</a> =-.</p>
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