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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham,

I gladly take that challenge as I have been thinking a lot about that.  I was trying to save that for after the Social Customer Experience post, to tie it all together... but I can see how altering the order will also work.

Look for it early into the next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham,</p>
<p>I gladly take that challenge as I have been thinking a lot about that.  I was trying to save that for after the Social Customer Experience post, to tie it all together&#8230; but I can see how altering the order will also work.</p>
<p>Look for it early into the next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Social CRM for Real? &#124; Bay Area CIO/IT Executives Meetups: Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is Social CRM for Real? &#124; Bay Area CIO/IT Executives Meetups: Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Graham Hill</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Esteban

Sounds like you had a great time.

Pity I couldn&#039;t have been there to throw a bucket of cold water on what sounds like a Social CRM vendor love-in.

The thing I miss in your write-up is any sense of vision for what Social CRM could be. Instead, I see a pragmatic, incremental, insipid approach to eeking a few more cents out of the current sub-optimal, inside-out approach to CRM. Sure, you can turn Social CRM into an add-on to CRM and you can make a few more cents by pretending to listen to customers. But that is like adding high-octane fuel to your broken-down, old banger and expecting it to go like a Lambo.

Where is any sense of what Paul Greenberg wrote about in his post on &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.zdnet.com/crm/?p=829&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Time to Put A Stake in The Ground on Social CRM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; or what I wrote about in my post on &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.customerthink.com/blog/how_customer_co_creation_is_the_future_of_business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Customer Co-Creation is the Future of Business&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;. Where is the sense of engaging customers as real partners for innovation, marketing, sales and service? Where is the creating an experience that enables co-creation of value? Where is the building of an eco-system of value-adding partners? In short, where are the big brains with the big ideas?

You don&#039;t win the 100m by walking to the finish line. You win by sprinting. It&#039;s time to get your running shoes on.

Graham Hill
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Esteban</p>
<p>Sounds like you had a great time.</p>
<p>Pity I couldn&#8217;t have been there to throw a bucket of cold water on what sounds like a Social CRM vendor love-in.</p>
<p>The thing I miss in your write-up is any sense of vision for what Social CRM could be. Instead, I see a pragmatic, incremental, insipid approach to eeking a few more cents out of the current sub-optimal, inside-out approach to CRM. Sure, you can turn Social CRM into an add-on to CRM and you can make a few more cents by pretending to listen to customers. But that is like adding high-octane fuel to your broken-down, old banger and expecting it to go like a Lambo.</p>
<p>Where is any sense of what Paul Greenberg wrote about in his post on <b><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/crm/?p=829" rel="nofollow">Time to Put A Stake in The Ground on Social CRM</a></b> or what I wrote about in my post on <b><a href="http://www.customerthink.com/blog/how_customer_co_creation_is_the_future_of_business" rel="nofollow">How Customer Co-Creation is the Future of Business</a></b>. Where is the sense of engaging customers as real partners for innovation, marketing, sales and service? Where is the creating an experience that enables co-creation of value? Where is the building of an eco-system of value-adding partners? In short, where are the big brains with the big ideas?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t win the 100m by walking to the finish line. You win by sprinting. It&#8217;s time to get your running shoes on.</p>
<p>Graham Hill<br />
@grahamhill</p>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Thanks for the nice words and for coming by.  As for your idea of aggregation, I would say that that &quot;solution&quot; has already been invented.  It was called the CIH in 2003 when I first introduced it, and there are several companies that are already using it (although I am sworn to secrecy since it is a highly competitive tool -- and a have a non-disclosure agreement).

thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Thanks for the nice words and for coming by.  As for your idea of aggregation, I would say that that &#8220;solution&#8221; has already been invented.  It was called the CIH in 2003 when I first introduced it, and there are several companies that are already using it (although I am sworn to secrecy since it is a highly competitive tool &#8212; and a have a non-disclosure agreement).</p>
<p>thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Y (@piplzchoice)</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Y (@piplzchoice)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was great to attend the meetup and meet with you Esteban, and with other members of the panel.

Interestingly enough I see Tweeter as a filter in reducing &quot;noise&quot;, which is much more effective than Google. I stopped using Google Reader completely since following people with similar interests, and reading the blog posts and other referrals from them. I also experienced much more robust customer service from T-Mobile and Seesmic using Twitter channel, then almost any other. However I do agree with Anthony Lay, that monitoring Twitter channel CS delivery cannot possibly be economical without appropriate tooling. I can see a start-up opportunity in development of Customer Service channels aggregation technology, that allows a single point collection, routing and solution delivery. Too bad I already have my hands full with Amplified Analytics :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to attend the meetup and meet with you Esteban, and with other members of the panel.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough I see Tweeter as a filter in reducing &#8220;noise&#8221;, which is much more effective than Google. I stopped using Google Reader completely since following people with similar interests, and reading the blog posts and other referrals from them. I also experienced much more robust customer service from T-Mobile and Seesmic using Twitter channel, then almost any other. However I do agree with Anthony Lay, that monitoring Twitter channel CS delivery cannot possibly be economical without appropriate tooling. I can see a start-up opportunity in development of Customer Service channels aggregation technology, that allows a single point collection, routing and solution delivery. Too bad I already have my hands full with Amplified Analytics <img src='http://estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Esteban Kolsky</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Esteban Kolsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>working on that -- and that is all i am going to say at this point.  surprises to come soon.

thanks for the kudos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>working on that &#8212; and that is all i am going to say at this point.  surprises to come soon.</p>
<p>thanks for the kudos!</p>
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		<title>By: Prem Kumar Aparanji</title>
		<link>http://estebankolsky.com/2009/09/the-scrm-panel-my-notes/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Prem Kumar Aparanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between the video, the pictures from meetup &amp; this post, looks almost as if I personally attended the meetup. I miss only the wining &amp; dining part! ;) It was not a matter of the $30 to get into the meetup, but the $30,000/- to reach &amp; stay at the Bay area! ;)

Thanks a lot for the notes &amp; the wrap up Esteban. Glad that you are connecting the virtual &amp; the real world communities! And while am glad that the value of the #scrm accidental community is being appreciated, I would be more glad if we can get more of these people to join us personally! :)
.-= Prem Kumar Aparanji´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://scorpfromhell.blogspot.com/2009/09/all-roads-lead-to-social-crm-but-hanoz.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All roads lead to Social CRM; But &quot;Hanoz Dilli Dur Ast&quot;?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the video, the pictures from meetup &amp; this post, looks almost as if I personally attended the meetup. I miss only the wining &amp; dining part! <img src='http://estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  It was not a matter of the $30 to get into the meetup, but the $30,000/- to reach &amp; stay at the Bay area! <img src='http://estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks a lot for the notes &amp; the wrap up Esteban. Glad that you are connecting the virtual &amp; the real world communities! And while am glad that the value of the #scrm accidental community is being appreciated, I would be more glad if we can get more of these people to join us personally! <img src='http://estebankolsky.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Prem Kumar Aparanji´s last blog ..<a href="http://scorpfromhell.blogspot.com/2009/09/all-roads-lead-to-social-crm-but-hanoz.html" rel="nofollow">All roads lead to Social CRM; But &quot;Hanoz Dilli Dur Ast&quot;?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention The SCRM Panel: My Notes… @ crm intelligence &#38; strategy -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention The SCRM Panel: My Notes… @ crm intelligence &#38; strategy -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Esteban Kolsky and Wim Rampen. Wim Rampen said: RT @ekolsky: The SCRM Panel: My Notes… http://bit.ly/I4KXk (feeling sorry I missed it..) [...]</description>
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